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SPEAK LIFE conversation

07:30
Your criticism of ARC is spot on: relationships are the fundamental layer = we need to rebuild relationships, for life is NOT a content/information story. Yes.

08:00
Yes we need more intimacy. However… the key to more intimacy is not just locality, but more nakedness from people = daring to be honest about our needs-imprefections-failures-challenges-shame-lacking-lonelynes – a.k.a. true-flawed (sinful) nature.

We can only empathize with each other if there is imperfection and suffering to emphasize with – people need to show their true self to feel towards each other more… brave honesty (speaking & doing Truth) is THE WAY humans connect and become intimate in our experience (speaking & doing Truth = standing in Christ, not just talking about Him). 

08:08
Yes, we have to rebuild the relational fabric of society. However… the basis of any relation is being useful to each other, and one can only be useful to another person IF  they dare show their lacking, is one can see their true (imperfect) self. 

We HAVE TO REINVENT SOCIAL NETWORKING to provide people with a better inceptive structure, and to move away from 20 years of faulty conditioning by Facebook & Co. (These are businesses based on vanity and greed, rewarding people for self-adoration, instead of honesty.) … People are motivated to pretend to be perfect. We are not. Billions thus adore themselves instead of God.

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Paul VanderKlay conversation

INTRO
Yes, we need to reach Communion. Yes, we need to get back to reach (!) Christianity. BUT in order to achieve this, we have to acknowledge that modernity is the age of Desire-Temptations-ME – and most of society is living the life of the Prodigal Son just as you Jordan and me also have lived it extensively. (That is what the drawing above is about, an evolution of the Hero’s Journey.)

So in order to get back to Christianity and Communion we have to accept that most people first need help NOT in turning towards God, but in following their Desires (the Law of  Modernity) in being more selfish, for they are not yet suffering enough to See the burning bush & Turn.  Like Saul before he became Paul, like Moses in the desert, like the Prodigal Son – God can only touch the human Soul when the darkness (need / longing / loneliness) resulting from self-centeredness is great enough. 

Most people need to suffer MORE in their own selfishness, go deeper into the rabbit hole (& find nothing there, just like you and I did) BEFORE they can turn – most people need to finish up being prodigal (self-centered instead of God-centered) first before they can crave Truth, See the Bush, Turn to God, accept Jesus Christ as The Example, who IS the Way and Truth and Life. 

35:18
Trust is restored by Communion, yes – but the basis of communion must be Truth. Communion in our experience is only possible where we dare to show our real selves. The imperfect one. The one we resent. The one we are ashamed of. The one we hide from others. Most importantly: the one we hide (try to deny) from our Self.

36:00
Communion to transcend all nations is the communion with Truth, that is the Logos, that is Christ. Yes. We have to, and we CAN build toward this right now: we can & have to engineer better online incentive structure for people than Facebook, TikTok & Co.

55:44
Yes the problem is 100. Yes we need to be a solution capable of carrying 150. The way to do this to give a new worldview (an easy to understand explanation of the evolution of their worldview and thus identity, see the drawing above) AND a new way to connect (our version for this new social network is in MVP). But then again, maybe this is just a 30 as opposed to the 150. I do not know.

Collective intelligence is tempting. But. The real question is how to facilitate global mentanoia in an age where the words  „Church” and „Christianity” and „God” drive an almost allergic reaction in most people. … In our experience Truth leads to God. So an incentive structure for speaking & doing Truth moves people closer to God – instead of „a collective intelligence” an easily accessible fractal structure of all human experiences (experiences are True, as opposed to thoughts) could be a first step. 

Imagine a life-experience catalog for everything one can experience – with a person to talk to for any event, one can experience. Imagine a global mentoring (spiritual counseling) network. This is what we build.

1:01:11
Your next step is premature. The Goal: „Local groups in deep intimacy with each other and with Christ” – is Right, of course, but a HUGE jump, not a step… it is 4-5 steps up the ladder, that Humanity cannot now manage at once.

The next steps must be something like

1. going back to being/showing our True Self first (helping people wake up from the posing & the social media nonsense WITH a better, thus more addictive platform than FB, Insta & TikTok),  
2. connecting and forming relationships, mentoring relations, local peer-support groups & larger communities based on being our true selves is second,
3. helping each other advance on our personal journey through the Prodigal Hell (that seems unavoidable for the modern city masses of intelligent & rational people who can not yet accept community and leadership for it is their Fake Self they worship) is third, where the more advanced people are helping the ones further down the journey,
4. only then can they (we) find Communion and the true Connection with Christ, thus become Members of the Body of Christ, the Church,
5. and thus we all become evangelists, much like you and me already are. 

It will be a distributed network. Yes. A fractal.
Around the principles of responsibility and subsidiarity. 

It is OUR JOB to Build this.
I do not think Churches want / can accomplish it.

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Disclaimer

I did not want to write these remarks – the above words came entirely „despite me”, while running in the forest this (holy!) week and listening to two of your recent discussions. 

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What I want with this letter

I do not know what i want / i do not want anything. But The I in me does… 

I have the unrelenting-empowering certainty that 

1. Humanity is One, just like a fractal is One 
2. we need to connect like a fractal does
3. the way to do this is not by preaching but by showing our True – imprefect! – Self  (= Attracting) 
4. a team of Builders is needed to build a new Network 
5. a fellowship of Shepherds is needed to show Example 

It is my certainty that the communion of people like us can facilitate Humanity once again connecting – around Truth, through Truth, by Truth, to Truth. 

That is why we started Humania Inc. startup (DL, US) – to provide abetter incentive structure than Facebook & Co … and thus to „bribe” people into Honesty. 

Our project is to provide people the right incentive structure to dare to be imperfect, as opposed to incentives of traditional social media where you only show your best self (= Pretend = Lie -› that results in Loneliness).

I invite you to build Humania together.
We need Fellowship (co-founders) to succeed.

A very rudimentary MVP  is already live.
And 1200 of our trial users LOVE it in Hungary.  

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ADDENDUM:

Jordan Peterson conversation

03:22
Hierarchic structure of Jacob’s leather… Yes. The drawing above is a depiction of exactly this – designed to show a map, provide explanation, as well as: raise curiosity in modern rational people. It revolves around evolution of our local plans based on the evolution of our worldview, that is the evolution of our goals (given by the voice of conscience).

12:00
Peterson is still grasping with his intellect, what intellect can not reach… God is above and beyond. Intellect cannot crack „it”. It will not work. It cannot work… We need to give up. Follow. Make no plans – do not Think! … Trust. … 

„Voluntary self sacrifice.” Yes, but for whom? Why? … The drawing above IS about the evolution of the Goals we voluntarily sacrifice for (we worship)… The way this works is not conscious decisions abut where to sacrifice, but „the Truth” of our situation, based on our level of identity evolution. … We do it, because we can not not do it. 

15:33
John is a good companion to Peterson, because of his amazingly sharp intellect – Pageau is a teacher to both, because of his Vision based on Trust … What a great cross a high IQ is. Intellect serving itself, creating words, trapped in a hall of mirrors,  that is the endless depth of discerning for discerning’s sake, adoring one’s Self (intellect) in the process.  … The path forward is not understanding but Faith. … We just have to follow & do. … And looking back one can really understand.

47:00
Friends and Foes, yes – AND mentors. Mentor is higher up the ladder. … Agent of magical transformation. Yes. A mentor is that… This is EXACTLY what we build with Humania: a platform/game for everyday Magic.

1:12:00
“You can’t find an accurate way of orienting yourself toward what is highest unless you traverse the lower realms.” Yes. We need to all fall from the plain of consciousness first (by suffering) do discover the Right (vertical)) orientation. That is, again, what the drawing is about. In the middle: The Dark Forest of our Soul, that is the Lake of Desires & Truth.   

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Mount Sofia conversation

09:00
Christ is the great teacher. Yes. How to be in relation with the Father like he is. Yes. … Sin is Distance from the father (from what is right) in my experience. That is how I explain it to people. 

An overall great conversation. Stunning how similar our worldview is, how similar our explanations are.